Interview with Mohammad Sammwr and his wife Umm Thamir. Mohammad tells about wars in the area. He remembers the English excavation in 1980. He now lives in a new house, but he has an old house in the middle of Udhruh. He thinks the Nabateans and Romans brought the stone from somewhere called 'Maghda al-Hayar'. Mohammad says that some research claims the Nabateans were Bedouins and their forefathers. He shows a family tree and gives us a copy. Umm Thamir makes carpets to sell to tourists in Wadi Musa. She thinks it is important to save this tradition and she thinks tourism helps with that. As a child, she used to play in a tunnel for water near the castra.